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Friday February 17, 2012

PLACE:
Golden Gate 8201 40th St N., Pinellas Park, FL

Date: February 17, 2012

Time: 9:30 till Noon

Topic: “Round table Discussion”

Speaker: N/A


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ROC Forum Meeting Report – Jan. 13, 2012 – Americana Cove

President Favata opened the meeting at 10:00am. She advised that the February meeting, usually held on the second Friday of the month, will be held instead on Friday, February 17th at Golden Gate in Pinellas Park to enable ROC Forum members to attend the annual CA day in Tampa on February 9th. (Information on CA Day will be attached to this report).

Director Lestage spoke briefly on the importance of joining both ROC Forum and FLAROC, for education purposes and getting things done at Tallahassee on behalf of ROC’s.

Director and ROC Forum’s Board Member Seminar Moderator Ed Mosakowski, introduced guest speaker Jan Shekitka of the Florida Department of Business & Professional Regulation  Education Team (DBPR), and a panelist at our 2011 Board Member Seminar. Mr. Shekitka’s presentation on “ROC Finances – It’s all about Education”lasting 35 minutes, followed by a 45 minute Q&A period.

The following is a summary of his presentation and Q&A:

-          Shareholders should first try to communicate with their board to try to resolve issues before forwarding their complaint to the DBPR, who will investigate and be the intermediary.

-          Knowledge and being informed is powerful. Shareholders as well as Board Members should educate themselves on their documents and state statutes which govern their community.

-          Co-operatives and condominiums have similarities but are different. Changes to FS719 (the

 Co-operative Act) do not come as quickly as condominiums. There are over 900 co-ops in Florida and 26,000 condominiums.

-          Common areas of investigation by DBPR are:

1.       Failure to maintain accurate and complete accounting records

2.       Improper assessment of shareholders

3.       Insufficient budgeting

4.       Board member compensation

5.       Using Association Funds for other than common expenses

6.       Special Assessments – Must be used for the project(s) specified

7.       Proposed budget – Must  be provided to shareholder 14 days in advance of the budget meeting, and include fully funded reserves, even if the shareholders subsequently vote to waive them or partially fund them. Statutes require they include, roofing, painting, paving and all items over $10,000. Community documents may require other straight line reserves costing less than $10,000. Pooling of reserves have the advantage of putting several items in one pot, and the flexibility of using funds for any item in that pool without shareholder approval. The moving of any reserve line item into a pooled reserve must first be approved by the shareholders. Line item reserve funds cannot be used for any other purpose than the item specified.

-          Reserve Calculations - The reserve schedule must show (a)each item in the reserves (b) the replacement value of each item (c) The useful life of each item (d) how many years of useful life left for each item (e) how much money is in the reserves for each item, to calculate the amount required that year to fully fund the reserves. Calculations are based on good faith estimates.

Interest earned in reserve fund accounts must stay in reserves but may be allocated to any item(s) in the reserves. The waiving of reserves must be done at a duly called meeting 

attended by a majority (including proxies)of shareholders, and passed by a majority of those present and is valid for one fiscal year.

8.       Financial  Reporting– The other side of the fiscal year from the budget. It’s essential that the shareholders reads both the budget and the financial report of what actually happened that fiscal year.  There are four levels of the report which is provided to each shareholder.

      (a)Cash receipts or disbursement report (b) the compilation (c)review or audit (d)reserve report.

Typically, the financial report is provided within 90 days of the end of the fiscal year (unless otherwise stated in the documents). The reserve report must show the actual status of the five items in the reserve schedule.

-          The difference between manufactured/mobile  home community condominiums, co-operatives, and HOA’a or sub-divisions

Condominiums – Each home is on a deeded lot and the common area expenses are shared and managed by a board of directors elected by the home owners . Governed by FS718

Co-operatives – A co-operative Corporation owns and manages the land (common property) and leases lots to the homeowner. The lease is a de facto deed. Each shareholder is issued a share in the corporation, elects a board of directors and shares in the expenses of the common areas. Governed by FS719.

HOA’s are similar to a condominium but organized under FS720

Question and Answer period

Q. When pooling reserves, do you provide the same information in the pool as if it was a line item?

A. Yes. The key is you can spend all the money on one item if it becomes necessary

Q. Is a reserve fund item required to replace an actual building (ie: clubhouse)?

A. No

Q. Can you use reserve funds to repair rather than replace an item in the reserves.

A. Yes.

Q. Can we move the existing funds from reserve line items to a new pool which includes those items?

A. Yes, with shareholder approval. If shareholder approval is not obtained, then the line item funds must be used up before spending funds from the pool.

Q. Can contingency funds be put in the reserves?

A. No. However, you can have a line item in reserves called “Deferred Maintenance”.

Q. Must all items listed in a Reserve Fund study done by professionals be included in the Reserves?

A. No. It is a board decision whether to include items other than roofing, painting, paving, and items         costing more than $10,000, as specified in the statutes.

Q. Does the 115% budget rule apply to the total expenditures in a fiscal year?

A.  It is based on the total assessments for the year derived by the budget.

Q.  What Is co-operative income tax based on?

A. It is based on income such as rentals, laundry uses, any other source of income, and interest.

     Any income over $400,000 requires an audit.

Q. A follow up on the 115% budget rule. Must a one-time expense be included?

A. A one-time unanticipated expense, betterments (i.e a fountain), and reserves will be deducted from   the total budget assessment.

Q.  If we have two openings on the board and there are only two applications for those positions, must we have a quorum at our general meeting to confirm the appointments?

A. Yes.  20% or whatever number is stated in your documents.

Q. If we have waved an audit for three years running, must we have one on the fourth year?

A. Yes, if you are in the $400,000 or over income category.

Q. Can we use a pooled reserve to pay for an item not in that reserve if we identify it?

A. No.

Q. Our auditor insists that we have a reserve fund item for a leased asset (street lights). Is he correct?

A. This is an interesting  situation never encountered before. Will check and advise.

Q. Must we have a reserve fund to purchase a new truck?

A. No. Such items can be a capital expense.

Q. Can we have a reserve fund item called infrastructure to cover such things as sewers and water?

A.  Those items should be broken down into components to enable shareholders to understand  what those items are all about. The DBPR will have a “Budget Reserve” booklet available which will cover reserves in detail.

Q. Can we have a line item fund for “General Reserves”?

A.  No. You can’t have a general item to camouflage other purchases.

Q. A past board has changed the use of a common area without shareholder consent. Can the current board change it back to the former use?

A. You should check your documents and consult your attorney.

Q. When is a decision made to assign interest earned on reserve funds?

A. Generally at the annual budget meeting.

Q. If a line reserve fund for a swimming pool has $25,000 in it and repairs made cost $26,000,

Can the remaining $1,000 be taken out of another reserve item?

A.      No. The simplest way is to take the $1,000 out of the Operating budget.

A few questions and answers are not covered here as they were either repetitious or inaudible.

Mr. Shekitka will again participate in the ROC Forum Board Member Orientation Seminar, to be held this year on March 19, 2012.

The meeting closed at 1130am.

Reminder:  2012 ROC Forum memberships are due.

Norman Banning – Secretary        rocforum@hotmail.com

727-734-5706

 

 
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